Comments on: The Best of Us – Remembering Great Americans: Walt Disney http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/ Sermo humanus per verba irata Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:31:33 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: The Best of Us: George Washington « The 12 Angry Men Blog http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-8855 The Best of Us: George Washington « The 12 Angry Men Blog Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:15:58 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-8855 [...] Washington seems a strange choice for this series, which is (after all) about those forgotten greats. How can we include a figure so well known, so [...] [...] Washington seems a strange choice for this series, which is (after all) about those forgotten greats. How can we include a figure so well known, so [...]

]]> By: The Best of Us: Danny Thomas (Amos Alphonsus Muzyad Yaqoob) [Ready for Review] « The 12 Angry Men Blog http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-7973 The Best of Us: Danny Thomas (Amos Alphonsus Muzyad Yaqoob) [Ready for Review] « The 12 Angry Men Blog Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:29:56 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-7973 [...] course, as with our other Great Americans Walt Disney and George Marshall, there are detractors. Some point to the sheer impossibility of curing [...] [...] course, as with our other Great Americans Walt Disney and George Marshall, there are detractors. Some point to the sheer impossibility of curing [...]

]]> By: mildlypiquedacademician http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6337 mildlypiquedacademician Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:58:28 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6337 Stef wrote: ###mildlypiquedacademician– I have a son who turned 14 yesterday. I didn’t even realize at the time that was also Walt Disney’s birthday as well until someone pointed it out to me when Marc was about 5.### Well I certainly didn't know, that was AOC's post. I usually write nasty stuff about Hugo Chavez. ###Love your name, BTW.### Thanks. Mom always said I just had to stick out as a kid. rebelleink Says: ###Having been born many years after Walt passed away, I suddenly feel gyped for not being more familiar with the man behind the magic. Love the blog by the way.### Thanks. I think we plan on short little bios of various people, as much as we plan anything here, which is to say, "not much." ;) MPA Stef wrote:

###mildlypiquedacademician– I have a son who turned 14 yesterday. I didn’t even realize at the time that was also Walt Disney’s birthday as well until someone pointed it out to me when Marc was about 5.###

Well I certainly didn’t know, that was AOC’s post. I usually write nasty stuff about Hugo Chavez.

###Love your name, BTW.###

Thanks. Mom always said I just had to stick out as a kid.

rebelleink Says:

###Having been born many years after Walt passed away, I suddenly feel gyped for not being more familiar with the man behind the magic. Love the blog by the way.###

Thanks. I think we plan on short little bios of various people, as much as we plan anything here, which is to say, “not much.” ;)

MPA

]]> By: rebelleink http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6334 rebelleink Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:50:40 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6334 Having been born many years after Walt passed away, I suddenly feel gyped for not being more familiar with the man behind the magic. Love the blog by the way. Having been born many years after Walt passed away, I suddenly feel gyped for not being more familiar with the man behind the magic. Love the blog by the way.

]]> By: cowgalutah http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6314 cowgalutah Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:30:40 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6314 wow...great place you have here. Nice post as well! Just found you via the main wordpress page. wow…great place you have here. Nice post as well! Just found you via the main wordpress page.

]]> By: Stef http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6309 Stef Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:25:15 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6309 mildlypiquedacademician-- I have a son who turned 14 yesterday. I didn't even realize at the time that was also Walt Disney's birthday as well until someone pointed it out to me when Marc was about 5. Love your name, BTW. mildlypiquedacademician– I have a son who turned 14 yesterday. I didn’t even realize at the time that was also Walt Disney’s birthday as well until someone pointed it out to me when Marc was about 5.

Love your name, BTW.

]]> By: extrapreneur http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6303 extrapreneur Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:41:41 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6303 there's no such thing as a great american. check out my blog at www.extrapreneur.wordpress.com there’s no such thing as a great american.

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]]> By: mildlypiquedacademician http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6301 mildlypiquedacademician Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:01:25 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6301 AOC wrote: ###As for your complaints, MPA, well, I have to agree about the MMPA!### Yeah, well, the real test of one's integrity is acting against one's own interest, though of course this isn't a test of Walt's integrity 'cause he's dead. Actually I'm really surprised my homeboy Hugo Chavez accepted his rebuke. It's probably some mix of (1) His former supporters telling him he was way out of line and that they were lining up a bullet with his name on it. (2) He really does have some democratic bones in his body. (3) He's got an *angle*.... ###And as for the wretched drek of the 1950s. Well, compared to much of the other children’s fare from that period, is it really so awful? You did watch it, after all, and I suspect not at gunpoint.### It was elementary school. Gunpoint is relative. AOC wrote:

###As for your complaints, MPA, well, I have to agree about the MMPA!###

Yeah, well, the real test of one’s integrity is acting against one’s own interest, though of course this isn’t a test of Walt’s integrity ’cause he’s dead.

Actually I’m really surprised my homeboy Hugo Chavez accepted his rebuke. It’s probably some mix of

(1) His former supporters telling him he was way out of line and that they were lining up a bullet with his name on it.
(2) He really does have some democratic bones in his body.
(3) He’s got an *angle*….

###And as for the wretched drek of the 1950s. Well, compared to much of the other children’s fare from that period, is it really so awful? You did watch it, after all, and I suspect not at gunpoint.###

It was elementary school. Gunpoint is relative.

]]> By: Angry Overeducated Catholic http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6287 Angry Overeducated Catholic Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:32:59 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6287 As for your complaints, MPA, well, I have to agree about the MMPA! In fact, it's particularly ironic because Disney made so much money off public domain works! Most of the early Disney blockbusters were adaptations of works in the public domain. Yet Disney now wants to ensure that none of its own work enriches that same public domain. And as for the wretched drek of the 1950s. Well, compared to much of the other children's fare from that period, is it really so awful? You did watch it, after all, and I suspect not at gunpoint. :) As for your complaints, MPA, well, I have to agree about the MMPA! In fact, it’s particularly ironic because Disney made so much money off public domain works! Most of the early Disney blockbusters were adaptations of works in the public domain. Yet Disney now wants to ensure that none of its own work enriches that same public domain.

And as for the wretched drek of the 1950s. Well, compared to much of the other children’s fare from that period, is it really so awful? You did watch it, after all, and I suspect not at gunpoint. :)

]]> By: Angry Overeducated Catholic http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6286 Angry Overeducated Catholic Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:28:51 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/the-best-of-us-remembering-great-americans-walt-disney/#comment-6286 <i>I love how one of the tags is ‘tolerance’</i> Whatever Disney's personal failings in this matter (and as the article points out he was probably in the "more tolerant" percentile of his day) the empire he built today celebrates tolerance as a core virtue. To reflect upon this consider the oddity of a major family-themed amusement park, catering to middle America, and built by a proud Midwesterner which openly supports a day dedicated to homosexual visitors: http://www.gaydays.com/about/history.html And that's only to take the most controversial aspect of Disney tolerance. Walt Disney World, and Epcot in particular, are dedicated to a multicultural vision of the human family. Sure, it's a "Disneyfied" version glossing over the nastier side of our fractious species, but for all that... In other words, tolerance is relative, Disney remains one of the most tolerant bunches you're going to find on the planet, and that tolerance is inherited directly from the vision of its founder of a world coming together to build a glorious future. Hey, perfect Walt was not, not by a long shot. But if perfection's your standard, enjoy your lonely reign on the moral mountaintop! I love how one of the tags is ‘tolerance’

Whatever Disney’s personal failings in this matter (and as the article points out he was probably in the “more tolerant” percentile of his day) the empire he built today celebrates tolerance as a core virtue.

To reflect upon this consider the oddity of a major family-themed amusement park, catering to middle America, and built by a proud Midwesterner which openly supports a day dedicated to homosexual visitors:

http://www.gaydays.com/about/history.html

And that’s only to take the most controversial aspect of Disney tolerance. Walt Disney World, and Epcot in particular, are dedicated to a multicultural vision of the human family. Sure, it’s a “Disneyfied” version glossing over the nastier side of our fractious species, but for all that…

In other words, tolerance is relative, Disney remains one of the most tolerant bunches you’re going to find on the planet, and that tolerance is inherited directly from the vision of its founder of a world coming together to build a glorious future.

Hey, perfect Walt was not, not by a long shot. But if perfection’s your standard, enjoy your lonely reign on the moral mountaintop!

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