Comments on: I Don’t Support You, But Have a Check: The Sad State of Obama’s Presidential Campaign http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/ Sermo humanus per verba irata Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:46:13 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Bad to Worse: America’s Options on Iran, Part II: Invading Iran « The 12 Angry Men Blog http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-8884 Bad to Worse: America’s Options on Iran, Part II: Invading Iran « The 12 Angry Men Blog Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:33:15 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-8884 [...] bankrupt position of hiding your head in the sand and pretending it isn’t so (much like Mr. Cline on Obama’s run for the presidency), the number of options remaining on Iran have dwindled tremendously. Here they are, as I see them [...] [...] bankrupt position of hiding your head in the sand and pretending it isn’t so (much like Mr. Cline on Obama’s run for the presidency), the number of options remaining on Iran have dwindled tremendously. Here they are, as I see them [...]

]]> By: Bad to Worse: America’s Options on Iran, Part I: Accepting the Inevitable « The 12 Angry Men Blog http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-8812 Bad to Worse: America’s Options on Iran, Part I: Accepting the Inevitable « The 12 Angry Men Blog Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:36:19 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-8812 [...] bankrupt position of hiding your head in the sand and pretending it isn’t so (much like Mr. Cline on Obama’s run for the presidency), the number of options remaining on Iran have dwindled tremendously. Here they are, as I see them [...] [...] bankrupt position of hiding your head in the sand and pretending it isn’t so (much like Mr. Cline on Obama’s run for the presidency), the number of options remaining on Iran have dwindled tremendously. Here they are, as I see them [...]

]]> By: jwilson07 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3814 jwilson07 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:35:49 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3814 Why yes you can completely trust the polls! It cannot matter they ask the same 1000 people who happen to live in new york city and san francisco who they will be voting for! Why would the polls skewer the information and try and make it look like a black man has NO chance at all?? Why yes you can completely trust the polls! It cannot matter they ask the same 1000 people who happen to live in new york city and san francisco who they will be voting for! Why would the polls skewer the information and try and make it look like a black man has NO chance at all??

]]> By: Angry Midwesterner http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3808 Angry Midwesterner Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:33:51 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3808 MPA said: <I>Of course if one considered his record in said positions….</I> Actually his track record in Texas was pretty good... MPA said: Of course if one considered his record in said positions….

Actually his track record in Texas was pretty good…

]]> By: Jim R. http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3804 Jim R. Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:34:54 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3804 "Despite the fact that Mr. Obama doesn’t have enough experience to qualify for the Governor’s mansion in Springfield” Take a look at total years in elected office. By that standard, Obama has more experience than either Hillary or Edwards. “Despite the fact that Mr. Obama doesn’t have enough experience to qualify for the Governor’s mansion in Springfield”

Take a look at total years in elected office. By that standard, Obama has more experience than either Hillary or Edwards.

]]> By: mildlypiquedacademician http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3802 mildlypiquedacademician Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:45:42 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3802 Am wrote: ###Dubya had immense experience in executive positions.### Of course if one considered his record in said positions.... Am wrote: ###Dubya had immense experience in executive positions.###

Of course if one considered his record in said positions….

]]> By: Angry Midwesterner http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3798 Angry Midwesterner Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:22:38 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3798 ANM wrote: <I>Despite the fact that Mr. Obama doesn’t have enough experience to qualify for the Governor’s mansion in Springfield</I> So I take it you think Lincoln didn't have enough experience to qualify either? What exactly constitutes "experience", and how much is needed? Dubya had immense experience in executive positions, and he has totally messed things up. Maybe we need someone with "less experience", especially if that means they will be less beholden to corporate whores, and not as deep in the game of back patting and cloak and dagger politics. ANM wrote: Despite the fact that Mr. Obama doesn’t have enough experience to qualify for the Governor’s mansion in Springfield

So I take it you think Lincoln didn’t have enough experience to qualify either?

What exactly constitutes “experience”, and how much is needed? Dubya had immense experience in executive positions, and he has totally messed things up. Maybe we need someone with “less experience”, especially if that means they will be less beholden to corporate whores, and not as deep in the game of back patting and cloak and dagger politics.

]]> By: mildlypiquedacademician http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3773 mildlypiquedacademician Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:50:07 +0000 http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/i-dont-support-you-but-have-a-check-the-sad-state-of-obamas-presidential-campaign/#comment-3773 ANM wrote: "Despite the fact that Mr. Obama doesn’t have enough experience to qualify for the Governor’s mansion in Springfield" Actually I'll dispute that. I think Obama is exactly the kind of guy who should run for governor. Timing was off for him but if he wants to run for president in the long term, there are really no better positions to be in than a sitting or recently former governor. I understand why he jumped into the presidential race---the main thing is the fact that your time of national prominence is often limited---but he's plenty qualified to be a governor. ANM wrote: “Despite the fact that Mr. Obama doesn’t have enough experience to qualify for the Governor’s mansion in Springfield”

Actually I’ll dispute that. I think Obama is exactly the kind of guy who should run for governor. Timing was off for him but if he wants to run for president in the long term, there are really no better positions to be in than a sitting or recently former governor. I understand why he jumped into the presidential race—the main thing is the fact that your time of national prominence is often limited—but he’s plenty qualified to be a governor.

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